The Ebay Game - Is ebay really a good deal for US?
states to not pass Buyer credit card information to the individual
In the following examples are shown two ebay purchases. Starting
with the most recent problem:
Here's my contention:
If I'm a parent and my kid kills your kid, of course I'm liable for the
actions of my kid. Likewise, if a corporation has an employee
that damages your property while in the capacity of his employ with the
corporation, the corporation is liable for the actions of its
employee. One cannot hire a hitman or an employee to "fence" goods
without being legally responsible.
However in the world of monopoly control, the rules change.
With the neo-corporate world of engagement it is the buyer that is
victimized and it is the buyer that must do this and do that and then
settle for the refund of defective or wrong product received.
I needed a simple 9v battery charger (which is a nominal $3 or $4 purchase
if I were able to make it to a store. However, the lure of
ebay deals had me convinced that spending $19.00+ would be to my advantage
with it's offer of 2 chargers and 4 rechargeable batteries included in the
Since the ebay seller has directly and purposely placed the words "for
U.S." and since the ebay seller sent European chargers that operate off of
220v and the US operates off of 110v rendering the units of no use.
One might presume that the ebay entity ought to be liable for fencing
products that they don't even have. The seller does not even carry
chargers that work in the U.S. to offer a replacement so the game is to
keep selling this lure that still returns a profit to Ebay (and it's
The ebay answer to this is simply to have IT'S seller refund the buyer's
card, which all sounds quite honest until you add up the variables:
n the following scenario, The fact that it was a pre-paid online credit
card that was purchased utilized to make the original purchase means that
there is a monthly fee of approximately $7 per month + the original
purchase of the card $3 so in effect this online purchase has cost a total
of about $29.00+ only to receive the wrongfully advertised prodcut.
Furthermore, since the original card was destroyed by the last place I
used the card (a quick-mart purchase utilized the last remaining pennies
from the card and the agent disposed of the card), so in effect I now
would have to wait for a replacement card which would invariably be at an
additional $7+ now rendering the refund to belittled even further (and the
purchase of the original item is now costing me $35+ !!!!
Is Ebay worth the trouble?
Monopoly Ebay causes some to turn from financing capitalists. Call for
ban on purchases.
The policy is stated, and assumed, for consumer protection.
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This is not the first time
ebay has done this questionable "bait and bail" practice.
Ebay acknowledge the purchase, send receipt of the purchase funds,
decline the purchase, keep the money.
Since ebay took the money for a purchase of an item placed on an ebay
website, the money is no longer to the profit of the owner.
Since ebay is with knowledge of receipt of my money, ebay is
profiting unlawfully by not returning the money.
They ought to, of their own
accord, RETURN the money that has skillfully allowed only ebay
able to enjoy.
The following will show
I've responded with due-diligence to the ebay monopoly.
March 28, 2018 =
Purchase of an ebay item
Ebay follows up with the following email 2 days after the purhcase: March 30, 2018
should not be punished from my money due to an ebay-derived cause.
If ebay is causing the hinderance of my enjoyment of my property,
since the money is in the care of ebay, it is ebay enjoying my property
which I did not authorize. I authorized money for product
After numerous telephone communications attempts to convince ebay to
return the money back to me. It was decided to try another
I was now forced to begin documenting calls, attempted emails to various
agents and agencies, the creation of this website to document the
insidious harm of bait and bail control.
was clear that I would be manipulated to first resolve the loss
with ebay as directed within the email sent by ebay.
In accordance with the ebay directives and dictates expressed to
me as the efforts that must be pursued for the return of my money, I
followed ebay advice and conctacted their law enforcement.
problem that ebay has with their seller should not translate to
adopted problem and/or loss. This might be a valid profit for
ebay had I allowed weeks to progress, however it was only two days
later after ebay took my money and here I am over a week chasing
monopoly for my money return.
powers of ebay were so diligently willing to "cancel" the shipment
of the item which ebay took the money for, one might find it
considerate of ebay to return the money without forcing me to first
jump through numerous hoops to usher the return of my money.
Email is rejected by
ebay as a form of communications, and since the ebay operators in
customer care penalize me for my native English language with much
wasted time over the phone, I was manipulated to create a username
and post on the ebay forum. One person responded by
requesting to know if I were the buyer or seller.
April 4, 2018 so we may not be seeing any other activity from the
ebay forum. tick tock
Secondly, As the below
included call logs show, I have spent some time on the phone with
ebay when the time could very well have been better spent
productively in a manner I would have preferred. However,
after speaking with three different ebay agents for a consumed
amount of time each, it became apparent that my having been born and
raised in America and having the English language as my only
language is apparently a hindrance to the expedient return of my
Thirdly, Having been
requested by the ebay telephone buffer agents to spell out my email
address, no less than 5 times in three calls (only one in three
agents were able to get the spelling as I individually spelled out
each letter), and having apparently failed to convey my email
address to an agent that might have a grasp of the only language I
am proficient in, It became apparent that I and the ebay employees
were not able to communicate fluidly, so I offered to simply email
ebay for expediency (which was refused by ebay as being permitted as
an alternative remedy for the clear conveyance of the spelling of my
My email address
is: firstname.lastname@example.org (repeat this
5 times over the phone to someone that you can barely understand
also, spelling out each character only to hear something else
repeated back to you, is somewhat infuriatingly degrading)
Having a need to
NOT stay on the phone for extended periods due to the phone being
necessary for incoming business calls, I now make the request for
mediation in the hopeful expedient remedy and return of my money.
took my money and cannot fulfill their website's requisites, the
least they should do is considerately RETURN the unearned profit.
The ploy appears to prey on the percent that either never follow up
with their credit card purchases, die, forget any knowledge of having made
a purchase from ebay, or any other number of variables that may
permit ebay an unwarranted profit.